Official getting a simlock-free (GSM) Pre thread, all countries - Page 8

rwhitby · 10/26/2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globemaster1986

Someone selling "brand new unlocked Palm Pre" for $389.50, about €270. Legit or what? The site has plenty "clones" but this is only one that claims to be the real thing!

brand new unlocked PALM PRE...USD389.5 Wholesale Price at DHgate

If it has a QWERTY keyboard, then it is not unlocked.

There is no unlocked Pre released with a QWERTY keyboard.

-- Rod

globemaster1986 · 10/26/2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhitby

If it has a QWERTY keyboard, then it is not unlocked.

There is no unlocked Pre released with a QWERTY keyboard.

-- Rod

I thought it sounded too good to be true! Cheers Rod. Looks like i'll have to give O2 Irl the €419 so....

thewhitetower · 10/26/2009, 09:51 PM

or unless it's a CDMA variant. The advertised Palm that is..

bennish · 10/27/2009, 03:09 AM

or unless it has BEEN unlocked?

bennish · 10/27/2009, 03:11 AM

by the way, rob, i'm keeping an eye on your progress in getting one. I'm in queensland and as soon as i see a viable option for having a pre unlocked (voice and data, 3G) on virgin mobile or similar (*without* hacking), i'm jumping. Regardless of price (well to a point).

Will a German GSM do that? Buy from germany, stick in an australian/american/whatever gsm sim, and get data and 3g voice? Or can data servers/etc not be entered manually? this is what i've always done for the past (treo 750v, nokias).

(sorry for doublepost)

rwhitby · 10/27/2009, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennish

or unless it has BEEN unlocked?

If it has, it will have been the first reporting of such.

There is no doubt that unlocking will very likely happen in the near future, but I seriously doubt that someone with no previous sales record on a random auction site will be the first to report success via an advertisement for a cheap Pre ...

-- Rod

reflex · 10/27/2009, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torpedojager

Although it now look like I could get a unlocked German Pre, the QWERTZ keyboard holds me back.

The placement of the keys doesn't bother me too much, but still a bit more than I thought it would. I find that I do expect the y to be on the top row and the z more to the left (I use azerty on most computers). I'll probably get used to it over time, though.

globemaster1986 · 10/27/2009, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thewhitetower

or unless it's a CDMA variant. The advertised Palm that is..

I've asked the seller these questions, whether it was GSM or CDMA? Where it originated etc etc but no answer yet

rwhitby · 10/27/2009, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reflex

The placement of the keys doesn't bother me too much, but still a bit more than I thought it would. I find that I do expect the y to be on the top row and the z more to the left (I use azerty on most computers). I'll probably get used to it over time, though.

You can use the WebOS Internals Meta-Doctor to change the keyboard layout to qwerty or azerty ...

-- Rod

jackofspeed · 10/27/2009, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhitby

If it has, it will have been the first reporting of such.

There seem to be reports of Movistar devices having been unlocked using an IMEI generated code:

Movistar - removinf SIMlock

AFAIK this is not verified yet though.

bennish · 10/27/2009, 06:50 PM

yeah, the movistar ones look very interesting if they can be unlocked.

Stupid question: would an unlocked gsm pre let you enter carrier information for data? or would it have to already be programmed in?

kevinrirvine · 10/27/2009, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennish

yeah, the movistar ones look very interesting if they can be unlocked.

Stupid question: would an unlocked gsm pre let you enter carrier information for data? or would it have to already be programmed in?

I think you answered your own question about stupid or not. I mean no disrespect by this but read all the threads.
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE, PERIOD, TO MANUALLY CONFIGURE THE DATA SETTINGS FOR THE GERMAN UNLOCKED PRE. THEY ARE PRE-PROGRAMMED INTO THE PHONE AND CANNOT BE ALTERED UNLESS YOUR A MASTER OF HACKING PHONES. Even then it is simply not possible nor wll it ever be even with the so called update in November that allows you to manually configure the data settings. IT IS A DUAL BAND, NOT TRI BAND UMTS PHONE, I HAVE THE PALM PDF MANUAL, 900/2100 FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POND AS I LIKE TO SAY AND NOTHING YOU DO WILL CHANGE THIS FACT. PEOPLE GET A DOSE OF REALITY HERE. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. KEVIN

bruba · 10/27/2009, 10:16 PM

thewhitetower · 10/27/2009, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhitby

Why would that be so surprising, when the US has chosen to have different 3G bands from everywhere else in the whole world?

The German Pre should work fine on 3G in Europe, UK, Asia, Japan, Australia, ....

-- Rod

Hi Rod,

Just wondering whether you have received the Palm Pre as yet. and for some clarification too if you dont mind. Do you see accessing Telstra's NextG as a problem with the German Pre considering the comments made in this thread that there appears to be a GSM US version and a GSM EU version.

By the way, I'm still waiting on mine to arrive from Germany. Hopefully tomorrow.

Thanks Rod

reflex · 10/28/2009, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhitby

You can use the WebOS Internals Meta-Doctor to change the keyboard layout to qwerty or azerty ...

Yes, I've read about that. But since it's a different size of keyboard from the others I use, I'll get used to it. The layout of my laptop keyboard is also slightly different than that of my desktop, but after a little while I didn't notice anymore. And I had to get used to my Centro with azerty keyboard as well.

Mavoz · 10/28/2009, 04:39 AM

Another Australian here Rod...watching with keen interest as to whether the German Pre is feasible...

Palm really need to give us an option to buy their product...

I can't understand why Palm currently has a marketing strategy that basically says

"Make a great product... then sell it only to a smaller part of the global market.....and in addition make it really difficult for our biggest fans in other markets to purchase it"

I thought Palm would want us to buy their phones!!

bennish · 10/29/2009, 01:49 AM

thankyou kevinirvine. I hope you don't yell that loudly on the phone or you may break the pre's microphone.

That did answer my question. I thought it was a question that did belong in this thread, judging by the title.

What makes you say it would still be impossible even with the update for manual entry??

In regards to the UMTS frequencies - perhaps a reality dose would help you realise that not all countries are on the atlantic (pond), and in fact the US is one of the ONLY countries not using the 900/2100 band. For the rest of us, dual band is not a problem. While 'NOTHING (WE) DO WILL CHANGE THIS FACT', we don't need it to.

spectralfish · 10/29/2009, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennish

In regards to the UMTS frequencies - perhaps a reality dose would help you realise that not all countries are on the atlantic (pond), and in fact the US is one of the ONLY countries not using the 900/2100 band. For the rest of us, dual band is not a problem.

What does Mexico use?

bennish · 10/29/2009, 03:08 AM

hey spectralfish

not sure. it may be the same as the u.s. or different? My point was about a large number of of countries outside the u.s. being fine with dual, but not all.

here's a handy list
GSM frequency bands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

thewhitetower · 10/29/2009, 05:35 AM

Hi all,

I've just received my O2 German Loop simcard in the case that I'll need it to activate here in Aust.

I'm pretty sure that it has to be activated (the sim that is) or registration of some sort however my German isn't that good!!

Is there an english version of the site that I can go to? Or can someone assist???

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10/26/2009, 09:51 PM	#143 (permalink)
thewhitetower Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	or unless it's a CDMA variant. The advertised Palm that is..

10/27/2009, 03:09 AM	#144 (permalink)
bennish Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toowoomba, Aus Posts: 219 Thanks: 21 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	or unless it has BEEN unlocked?

10/27/2009, 03:11 AM	#145 (permalink)
bennish Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toowoomba, Aus Posts: 219 Thanks: 21 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	by the way, rob, i'm keeping an eye on your progress in getting one. I'm in queensland and as soon as i see a viable option for having a pre unlocked (voice and data, 3G) on virgin mobile or similar (without hacking), i'm jumping. Regardless of price (well to a point). Will a German GSM do that? Buy from germany, stick in an australian/american/whatever gsm sim, and get data and 3g voice? Or can data servers/etc not be entered manually? this is what i've always done for the past (treo 750v, nokias). (sorry for doublepost)

10/27/2009, 06:50 PM	#151 (permalink)
bennish Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toowoomba, Aus Posts: 219 Thanks: 21 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	yeah, the movistar ones look very interesting if they can be unlocked. Stupid question: would an unlocked gsm pre let you enter carrier information for data? or would it have to already be programmed in?

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10/28/2009, 04:39 AM	#156 (permalink)
Mavoz Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 109 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another Australian here Rod...watching with keen interest as to whether the German Pre is feasible... Palm really need to give us an option to buy their product... I can't understand why Palm currently has a marketing strategy that basically says "Make a great product... then sell it only to a smaller part of the global market.....and in addition make it really difficult for our biggest fans in other markets to purchase it" I thought Palm would want us to buy their phones!!

10/29/2009, 01:49 AM	#157 (permalink)
bennish Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toowoomba, Aus Posts: 219 Thanks: 21 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	thankyou kevinirvine. I hope you don't yell that loudly on the phone or you may break the pre's microphone. That did answer my question. I thought it was a question that did belong in this thread, judging by the title. What makes you say it would still be impossible even with the update for manual entry?? In regards to the UMTS frequencies - perhaps a reality dose would help you realise that not all countries are on the atlantic (pond), and in fact the US is one of the ONLY countries not using the 900/2100 band. For the rest of us, dual band is not a problem. While 'NOTHING (WE) DO WILL CHANGE THIS FACT', we don't need it to.

10/29/2009, 03:08 AM	#159 (permalink)
bennish Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toowoomba, Aus Posts: 219 Thanks: 21 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	hey spectralfish not sure. it may be the same as the u.s. or different? My point was about a large number of of countries outside the u.s. being fine with dual, but not all. here's a handy list GSM frequency bands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

10/29/2009, 05:35 AM	#160 (permalink)
thewhitetower Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Hi all, I've just received my O2 German Loop simcard in the case that I'll need it to activate here in Aust. I'm pretty sure that it has to be activated (the sim that is) or registration of some sort however my German isn't that good!! Is there an english version of the site that I can go to? Or can someone assist???