Classic Users - do not apply 1.0.3 update! - Page 2

jeffgus · 06/19/2009, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donm527

Question... Is Classic an app you buy from the Palm Pre App Store?

Sorta.... There is the webOS front-end that downloads from the store. Then there is the native plugin to the Pre. As far as I can tell, that part comes as part of the firmware.

Sambo41 · 06/19/2009, 09:47 PM

Classic still works great for me after the 1.03 update. There is a sound on/off toggle under classic preferences now but it doesn't do anything.

ualdayan · 06/19/2009, 09:49 PM

If you downloaded the webos doctor vaccpalm you could probably just restore to 1.0.2 and reinstall your classic app for this weekend.

jkendrick · 06/19/2009, 09:49 PM

It no longer recognizes anything on the Internal Card for me. The files are still there when I look at the Pre but Classic says no files are there.

VaccPalm · 06/19/2009, 09:53 PM

Here is the site to file a ticket with MotonApps to ask them to fix this .

MotionApps Customer Support

bitmage · 06/19/2009, 10:09 PM

Ok, if I delete the ClassicApps folder from the USB drive, I can start Classic again. This is after blowing away my Classic setup, so there may be other factors involved. Still experimenting...

liv2surf · 06/19/2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treolo

No offense to anybody, but classic is nothing but bugs and headaches! This is really an alpha app, and I would not recommend anybody buying it unless they really really must run an old PalmOS app that doesn't connect to the Internet.

Don't agree with you. I have found Classic to be quite excellent (until now that is**), as I too installed the update. Classic was running Tide Table, DayNotez and SplashID very well.

**Actually, I got it to work under 1.0.3 by deleting the Install folder or maybe the ClassicAPps folder - don't remember exactly (as described by others)

GregV · 06/19/2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitmage

Ok, if I delete the ClassicApps folder from the USB drive, I can start Classic again. This is after blowing away my Classic setup, so there may be other factors involved. Still experimenting...

This worked for me! I renamed ClassicApps and it started fine, generating a new one. The new one adds PALM and PALM/Launcher folders, so maybe that was what it was looking for. I did NOT do a hard reset.

backslide · 06/19/2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregV

This worked for me! I renamed ClassicApps and it started fine, generating a new one. The new one adds PALM and PALM/Launcher folders, so maybe that was what it was looking for. I did NOT do a hard reset.

Same for me.

aaronchow · 06/19/2009, 10:27 PM

I wish Pre has a file explorer now so that I can give the above method a try, oh well, have to wait till tonight then :-(

bitmage · 06/19/2009, 10:30 PM

Ok, here's the fix I have found. Unfortunately I deleted my Classic install before trying this, but hopefully that's not necessary.

Connect the Pre to a PC in USB mode.
Backup anything you need from the ClassicApps folder.
Delete the ClassicApps folder.
Disconnect and Classic should now work.
Classic will recreate the ClassicApps folder, but there is a new structure:
PALM
+--Launcher
Install

Anything you want to be visible when in the emulator must be placed in PALM\Launcher.

If you put files in the Install folder, you will get the blue screen at startup. I'm not sure what the correct process for installing apps is now.

Under the Preferences of the Classic app, there are new options for emulator speed and sound. Sound still does not seem to work, and I'd be leery of activating the background alarms option right now.

Classic is made up of two pieces internally, a javascript bit that launches and handles some setup, and a background native part that does the emulation. Palm's update brought over the background part without updating the javascript front end. I suspect that it got accidentally rolled into the update, but I don't know.

This should get you running again until a real fix appears.

ABQMD · 06/19/2009, 10:33 PM

Just to be clear: Go into Pre as USB drive. I renamed ClassicApp to "ClassicApp new" and ejected the Pre. Classic works again as stated above! I then went back into Pre as USB drive there was a new ClassicApp folder. I then deleted the renamed "ClassicApp new" folder, leaving the reconstituted ClassicApp folder. All is good again. ePocrates, dateBook6, Shots 2009, etc are all working again.

jeffgus · 06/19/2009, 10:56 PM

I just tried the same thing! Renaming the Classic directory also worked for me. Apparently the emulator doesn't like prc's or pdb's in the root of the ClassicApps directory anymore.

GregV · 06/19/2009, 11:20 PM

Nope, they have to be in ClassicApps/PALM/Launcher now.

While looking for a .prc to test this with, I found I still had the demo of TealOS! So I give to you: TealOS on Classic on the Palm Pre.

rrscott · 06/20/2009, 12:14 AM

Classic was crashing for me too. Renaming the ClassicApps folder did the trick and now classic is working fine (starting up without crashing). Thanks for the tip.

The OTA update definitely updated Classic to 1.1.05.

I managed to get sound working by changing Emulation mode to games. After switching to games mode, the sound could be toggled on. I can hear the background music in bejeweled 2 now.

The update seems to have fixed some other issues too. I was having problems in bejeweled where a notification would lock up classic when I was in Bejeweled2. This no longer happens. You can also resize the screen. It did crash on me once so it isn't perfect.

DarthRepublican · 06/20/2009, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregV

Nope, they have to be in ClassicApps/PALM/Launcher now.

While looking for a .prc to test this with, I found I still had the demo of TealOS! So I give to you: TealOS on Classic on the Palm Pre.

Whoa, trippy man!

VaccPalm · 06/20/2009, 12:41 AM

All you guys who worked on this fix and posted the fix, a HUGE thank you! Well done!

Jasher · 06/20/2009, 12:48 AM

I had the same problem with Classic, but after deleting the ClassicApps folder everything works fine. The only thing I can't get to work properly is rescobackup for some reason, which is odd.

Thanks for the tip, I am glad Classic is now back up and running.

John

ronlongo · 06/20/2009, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaccPalm

I paid $30 day one as I needed Palm VNC for THIS WEEKEND as Im going awsy for a day or two and my luck its this weekend that its not going to work . RRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.

It's never really a good idear to update ANYTHING when you have something vital coming up. Only update when you know you have time to test or put an alternate plan into action. We call this risk mitigation.

I develop software. We would never update the OS or anything else just before making a delivery. That sort of thing has bitten us before.

My sympathy definitely goes out to you but I would chalk this up as a lesson learned.

JimmieGeddes · 06/20/2009, 01:00 AM

Thanks for posting the fix. I freaked out when I ran Classic a few times after the upgrade and got the blue screen of death, and couldn't restart in safe mode. Classic is working now.

I also see the new preferences in Classic. All of my apps are coming up as "not Classic Certified". Anyone else experiencing this?

06/19/2009, 09:47 PM	#22 (permalink)
Sambo41 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Classic still works great for me after the 1.03 update. There is a sound on/off toggle under classic preferences now but it doesn't do anything. __________________ Sam Martin - Paris,TX Palm Pre(v.1.2.1) - Sprint - Standard Battery - Touchstone -Motorola HT 820 - Motorokr S9-HD - Jabra BT8040 - Jabra BT530 - Jawbone 2 - Jabra Cruiser Bluetooth Speakerphone

06/19/2009, 09:49 PM	#24 (permalink)
jkendrick Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It no longer recognizes anything on the Internal Card for me. The files are still there when I look at the Pre but Classic says no files are there. __________________ James Kendrick Editor- jkOnTheRun, a GigaOM site

06/19/2009, 10:09 PM	#26 (permalink)
bitmage Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 108 Thanks: 3 Thanked 37 Times in 10 Posts	Ok, if I delete the ClassicApps folder from the USB drive, I can start Classic again. This is after blowing away my Classic setup, so there may be other factors involved. Still experimenting... __________________ Palm IIIx-->Palm Vx-->Kyocera 6035-->Kyocera 7135-->Treo 650-->Treo 700p-->Pre

06/19/2009, 10:30 PM	#31 (permalink)
bitmage Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 108 Thanks: 3 Thanked 37 Times in 10 Posts	Ok, here's the fix I have found. Unfortunately I deleted my Classic install before trying this, but hopefully that's not necessary. Connect the Pre to a PC in USB mode. Backup anything you need from the ClassicApps folder. Delete the ClassicApps folder. Disconnect and Classic should now work. Classic will recreate the ClassicApps folder, but there is a new structure: PALM +--Launcher Install Anything you want to be visible when in the emulator must be placed in PALM\Launcher. If you put files in the Install folder, you will get the blue screen at startup. I'm not sure what the correct process for installing apps is now. Under the Preferences of the Classic app, there are new options for emulator speed and sound. Sound still does not seem to work, and I'd be leery of activating the background alarms option right now. Classic is made up of two pieces internally, a javascript bit that launches and handles some setup, and a background native part that does the emulation. Palm's update brought over the background part without updating the javascript front end. I suspect that it got accidentally rolled into the update, but I don't know. This should get you running again until a real fix appears. __________________ Palm IIIx-->Palm Vx-->Kyocera 6035-->Kyocera 7135-->Treo 650-->Treo 700p-->Pre

06/20/2009, 12:48 AM	#38 (permalink)
Jasher Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Same problem . . I had the same problem with Classic, but after deleting the ClassicApps folder everything works fine. The only thing I can't get to work properly is rescobackup for some reason, which is odd. Thanks for the tip, I am glad Classic is now back up and running. John

06/19/2009, 09:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
ualdayan Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	If you downloaded the webos doctor vaccpalm you could probably just restore to 1.0.2 and reinstall your classic app for this weekend.

06/19/2009, 09:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
VaccPalm Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,680 Thanks: 9 Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts	Here is the site to file a ticket with MotonApps to ask them to fix this . MotionApps Customer Support

06/19/2009, 10:27 PM	#30 (permalink)
aaronchow Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I wish Pre has a file explorer now so that I can give the above method a try, oh well, have to wait till tonight then :-(

06/19/2009, 10:33 PM	#32 (permalink)
ABQMD Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 31 Thanks: 44 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Just to be clear: Go into Pre as USB drive. I renamed ClassicApp to "ClassicApp new" and ejected the Pre. Classic works again as stated above! I then went back into Pre as USB drive there was a new ClassicApp folder. I then deleted the renamed "ClassicApp new" folder, leaving the reconstituted ClassicApp folder. All is good again. ePocrates, dateBook6, Shots 2009, etc are all working again.

06/19/2009, 10:56 PM	#33 (permalink)
jeffgus Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 83 Times in 2 Posts	I just tried the same thing! Renaming the Classic directory also worked for me. Apparently the emulator doesn't like prc's or pdb's in the root of the ClassicApps directory anymore.

06/20/2009, 12:14 AM	#35 (permalink)
rrscott Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 13 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Classic was crashing for me too. Renaming the ClassicApps folder did the trick and now classic is working fine (starting up without crashing). Thanks for the tip. The OTA update definitely updated Classic to 1.1.05. I managed to get sound working by changing Emulation mode to games. After switching to games mode, the sound could be toggled on. I can hear the background music in bejeweled 2 now. The update seems to have fixed some other issues too. I was having problems in bejeweled where a notification would lock up classic when I was in Bejeweled2. This no longer happens. You can also resize the screen. It did crash on me once so it isn't perfect.

06/20/2009, 12:41 AM	#37 (permalink)
VaccPalm Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,680 Thanks: 9 Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts	All you guys who worked on this fix and posted the fix, a HUGE thank you! Well done!

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